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!Hubzilla Development  !Hubzilla Support Forum

Is anyone aware of a Hubzilla theme/plugin that makes a forum channel look and behave as much like a Reddit subreddit as possible?  I took a look through Sean Tilley's theme collection, but he doesn't seem to have one.   But perhaps someone else is working on one?
Reddit proposes the new theme when you sign on, you have the choice of the old or the new
don't know how long that will last ;-)
Ah, no, Reddit hasn't rolled their new UI out for me yet.
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I don't like it much, titles are not clickable for example


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Nice interview with @Mike Macgirvin , principal creator of Hubzilla.  

What important lessons did you take from developing DFRN when you decided to go back to the drawing board and develop Zot?

The first big thing I did was solidify the “magic-auth” protocol. In Friendica it was somewhat limited in what it could do. In Zot and Hubzilla magic-auth is really the core of the service.

Access control and privacy can be attached to any resource on your server and restricted to viewers from across the web — no matter what server they have their account on. Your private videos are only visible to select people; and they don’t need an account on your server to view them. Authentication is invisible and you aren’t asked for passwords or tokens. It just happens as you browse your social stream and visit the websites you find therein.

Part of Mike’s grassroots campaign for Hubzilla.
The second important thing we did is provide “nomadic identity”, which is also built into the protocol. In 2010–2012, the free web lost *hundreds of thousands* of early adopters because we had no way to easily migrate from server to server; and lots of early server administrators closed down with little or no warning. This set the free web back at least five years, because you couldn’t trust your account and identity and friendships and content to exist tomorrow. Most of the other free web projects decided that this problem should be solved by import/export tools (which we’re still waiting for in some cases).

I saw an even bigger problem. Twitter at the time was over capacity and often would be shut down for hours or a few days. What if you didn’t really want to permanently move to another server, but you just wanted to post something and stay in touch with friends/family when your server was having a bad day? This was the impetus for nomadic identity. You could take a thumbdrive and load it into any other server; and your identity is intact and you still have all your friends. Then we allowed you to “clone” your identity so you could have these backup accounts available at any time you needed them. Then we started syncing stuff between your clones so that on server ‘A’ you still have the same exact content and friends that you do on server ‘B’. They’re clones. You can post from either. If one shuts down forever, no big deal. If it has a cert issue that takes 24 hours to fix, no big deal. Your online life can continue, uninterrupted — no matter what happens to individual servers.

 East Palo Alto last edited: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 01:32:30 +0200  
@Hubzilla Development+  @Hubzilla Development+

I see in the repository that there's a hidden config for a ratings system:

[*= system.rating_enabled ] Distributed reputation reporting and data collection. This feature is currently being re-worked.

Digging into the code a bit, I see this:

ratings are gone. They can be enabled, but there is no UI for doing so at this time; and will likely only be available in a 'pro' configuration once the new implementation details have been hashed out. This appears to require a mechanism for rebuttal before it can again be opened to the public. There are also some synchronisation issues to contend with; as ratings are currently only distributed to active directory servers. There is no reliable mechanism for a new directory server to fetch existing ratings.

More on the directory issue here:

If someone has time, can they explain how the ratings system were supposed to work?  Also, if there's currently a discussion happening somewhere about the nature of a future ratings system, I'd be grateful  for a pointer.  

Thank you!
Gotcha.  Many thanks!
Btw, interesting recent publication on why online rating tend to inflate towards 4.5/5 stars:
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@M. Dent I think piggy backing on one of the blockchain rating/reputation systems is worth pursuing.  Personally, I'm excited about integrating OpenBazaar into Hubzilla.  OB has a similar ethos (decentralized, open source, privacy centric).  They already have implemented a reputation system based on transaction ratings, and they've put out a call for ideas for better identity/reputation in their 2018 roadmap.

 East Palo Alto last edited: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 00:53:51 +0200  
!Hubzilla Development !Hubzilla Support Forum

I found it difficult to tell what the add-ons in the Hubzilla Add-on repository did.  So I made a table of the current list of add-ons and their functions here:

Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome!
How do we turn this list into a shared wiki?
@msc, if you authenticate to the hub, I think you'll be able to edit it, if you want.
 East Palo Alto 
Via Bob Mottram

"Onion based federation is now working with #pleroma on #freedombone. This means that it's now possible to follow users on "onion only" installs.

This type of federation is quite significant, because it means independence from the DNS and CA systems. It means that even if you don't control your local internet router or don't have money to spend on domain names you can still create a social network. It significantly reduces the complexity barrier to entry for running a home server."

 East Palo Alto last edited: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:19:42 +0200  
Go, sci-hub!  Soon, the onionland will be the place to go for drugs, sex workers, and science.  

!Green libertarians

"Frustrated by Sci-Hub’s resilience, ACS recently went back to court asking for an amended injunction. The publisher requested the authority to seize any and all Sci-Hub domain names, also those that will be registered in the future.
Soon after the request was submitted, US District Court Judge Leonie Brinkema agreed to the amended language.

The amended injunction now requires search engines, hosting companies, domain registrars, and other service or software providers, to cease facilitating access to Sci-Hub.
Several service providers are not receptive to US Court orders. One example is Iceland’s domain registry ISNIC and indeed, at the time of writing, is still widely available.

Seizing .onion domain names, which are used on the Tor network, may also prove to be a challenge. After all, there is no central registration organization involved.

For now, Sci-Hub founder and operator Alexandra Elbakyan appears determined to keep the site online, whatever it takes. While it may be a hassle for users to find the latest working domain names, the new court order is not the end of the “whac-a-mole” just yet."

How can WE help?

 East Palo Alto 
You Can Now Download The Handwriting of Kurt Cobain, David Bowie, John Lennon, and Leonard Cohen as Fonts


Digitally capturing the nuances of each artist. Designers Nicolas Damiens and Julien Sens have taken on the tedious task of converting Kurt Cobain‘s, David Bowie‘s, John Lennon‘s, and Leonard Cohen…

 East Palo Alto 
"WHEN LIFELONG CIVIL rights attorney Larry Krasner was elected in a landslide this past November to become the new district attorney of Philadelphia, to say that his fans and supporters had high hopes would be an understatement. Anything less than a complete revolution that tore down the bigoted and patently unfair systems of mass incarceration would be a severe disappointment.

Across the country, talking the talk of criminal justice reform has gotten many people elected as DA. Once in office, their reforms have often been painfully slow and disappointing. Krasner was the first candidate elected who publicly committed not just to intermittent changes, but a radical overhaul.

So far, having been in office less than three months, he has exceeded expectations. He’s doing something I’ve never quite seen before in present-day politics: Larry Krasner’s keeping his word — and it’s a sight to behold.

In his first week on the job, he fired 31 prosecutors from the DA’s office because they weren’t committed to the changes he intended to make. “Change is never easy, but DA Krasner was given a clear mandate from the voters for transformational change,” his spokesperson said at the time. “Today’s actions are necessary to achieve that agenda.”

Next, Krasner obeyed a court order to release a list of 29 officers from the Philadelphia Police Department that were on a “do-not-call list” — meaning that they were so tainted that they would be considered unreliable as witnesses. The police officers on the list had either been charged with crimes or found responsible for misconduct in internal police probes conducted by the department’s Board of Inquiry. Among the offenses, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the police officers had lied to their fellow investigators, filed false reports, used excessive force, driven drunk, and burgled."

I am disappointed that there was no mention of civil asset forfeiture, though. Maybe that will be coming soon.

 East Palo Alto 
!Green libertarians


"PORTAGE — Dr. Timothy Ames had a traditional primary care practice for a quarter of a century, starting in 1987. He grew increasingly incensed by the bureaucratic obstacles being put in the way of doctors caring for patients.

So he went nontraditional.

At his new practice, he doesn’t accept insurance of any kind. He charges patients a monthly subscription fee for unlimited visits. He is available by phone, by text, after hours.

He explained the difference between the two approaches:

“Physicians have become accustomed to a system that leads to harsh and impersonal care.”

“In fee-for-service medicine, paid by insurance companies, there is a lot of emphasis on recordkeeping and billing codes. If all the bookkeeping is not done precisely right, insurance companies can deny or delay payment. That really just distorts the physician-patient relationship.

“In fee-for-service medicine, paid by insurance companies, there is a lot of emphasis on recordkeeping and billing codes. If all the bookkeeping is not done precisely right, insurance companies can deny or delay payment. That really just distorts the physician-patient relationship.

“In this practice, if it does good to talk to a patient for an hour, I will. If the very best thing is to see them today, I have the flexibility to do that. If a telephone call is helpful, I don’t have to worry about how to bill and code for a telephone call. It really allows me to think creatively about how I deliver care to my patients without worrying about how to document my appointments to meet the requirements of the insurance companies.”
 East Palo Alto last edited: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 19:10:50 +0200  
!Hubzilla Support Forum

Ben Friedland, one of the members of the Facebook group "LEDS ARE AWESOME" recently advocated that the group switch to Reddit:

Like many of you, I'm about to ditch FB. I propose those of us who would like to keep in touch subscribe to the subreddit which we formed around this same group:

Admins/mods here, please feel free to PM me and I'll make you a mod. Not trying to steal a community, just trying to make sure I still have this awesome resource after leaving FB.

In response, I pitched the idea of moving to Hubzilla instead:

Thanks for creating an alternative!  Unfortunately, I don't think Reddit is much better, IMHO.  They just axed a bunch of subreddits without warning, affecting tens of thousands of users.  They're in the process of rolling out UI changes that will make Reddit look more like Facebook (and, coincidentally, open up more space for ads).  

You'll still be at the mercy of an giant, uncaring corporation that censors you, spies on you, and basically doesn't give a crap about you except to the extent that it can sell your eyeballs to advertisers.  Only it will be Condé Nast instead of Facebook.  

Consider joining the Hubzilla Federation instead.  I've created a channel for LEDS ARE AWESOME here:

My personal channel is here (feel free to add me):

...and cloned here:


* Easily port your channels from one hub to another.  Don't like your current hub?  Clone your account  to a new hub in a few minutes.   Both clones can easily be synced with each other.  Neither your identity, your contacts, or your content are trapped.  

* Very fine grained control over access/privacy.  Hubzilla makes it easy to create different persona's for different audience.  

* No ads, no tracking, no spying.  

* Completely open source.   If you're technically inclined, you can host your own hub.  


* UI can takes some getting used to

* Hubs can be a little flakey (most are self-hosted labors of love)

Intrigued?  Consider checking out Sean Tilley's detail review of Hubzilla to learn more about what Hubzilla has to offer.
@Robbie, I think @Waitman Gobble  ( is the proprietor of  He hosts a newbie forum, and has open registration, so I assumed he would be okay with at least some new accounts.   I'm tagging him in this post to confirm.
@Einer, I think some of them care, but like most people, I don't think most of them care about privacy very much.
Sure, no problem. the service here is gratis. You can also run your own hub if you like, the code is actively developed at redmatrix/hubzilla


hubzilla - build community websites that can interact with one another

 East Palo Alto last edited: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:39:50 +0200  
Thai Chicken Curry is one of my favorite dishes.   This recipe looks good for someone who isn't somewhere that "exotic" ingredients like coconut milk are available.  

Peanut Curry Chicken - How to Make Chicken with Peanut Curry Sauce
by Food Wishes on YouTube

 East Palo Alto last edited: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 01:49:24 +0200  
!Hubzilla Development is a social bookmarking site, similar to Delicious.  It's an unusual company, as internet companies go.  First, it's run by a single individual, Maciej Cegłowski.   Second, it accepts no ads,  and no third party tracking.  Third, Ceglowski directly charges users money for the service.   Initially, the fee was a one-time fee based on the formula (number of users * $0.001)--about $5.00/year.  Currently, it's about $11/year for a regular account,  and $25/year for an archival service which stores a copy of the bookmarked page and enables full text search.   The site began in 2009, and currently makes about $259,000/year in revenue.

Is anyone doing paid Hubzilla hosting yet?  If not--given Ceglowski's experience with Pinbooad--it seems like it might be a workable business model that's consistent with the ethos of Hubzilla's community.  

See screenshot:


@Andrew, FWIW, there are VPS providers outside the U.S. who allow anonymous registration and payment with Monero (anonymous cryptocurrency).
That's kind of like hoping you don't have to pay taxes as long as you store the money in off-shore accounts that they can't trace back to you. It might work technically speaking, but for me, I'm too much of a rule follower.
I could host sites, but I'm not sure it's a value winning proposition. I've hosted thousands of sites since the 1990's. There's all kinds of cheapy hosting plans out there, i've never gone that route. Charging less than 25 bucks a month isn't really worth the trouble financially for a small hosting company. Really you have to upsell on updates and maintenance. try to get another 50/mo out of them.

I have a godaddy account with one domain, i totally dislike godaddy but i support a couple of people who use godaddy so i have to be an expert at it. or at least log into my account and tinker with things to find the answer to a question. That costs me about 35 bucks a month.

A ballpark idea would be a server that runs about 250 a month, and maybe you could put 10 to 15 hubzilla sites on it? the money isn't there. I haven't tested that and maybe i could load more hubzilla sites on that machine, but that's my guess.

 East Palo Alto last edited: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 18:27:57 +0200  
!Hubzilla Support Forum

On the profile page, what's the recommended delimiter for tags?   Should tags be comma-separated?  Should multiple word tags be in quotes?  Something else?

 UI  hubzilla

 East Palo Alto last edited: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 19:45:11 +0200  
I wish I lived closer to this place:

How All of America's Lost Luggage Ends Up at One Alabama Thrift Store (And Why You Really Need to Go There)


Unclaimed Baggage might be the world's best thrift store. Here's the inside scoop on how to shop there and what you might find.

#unclaimed_baggage #travel

 East Palo Alto last edited: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 06:06:22 +0200  
Via @Mike Macgirvin

Look, you're going to die. Death is the ultimate democracy. ... You don't have anything to say about when you die, where you die, how you die. The only thing you can say is what is it you give your life for. And you have to give your life for something every day so that when you die, people will know that you were living for others and you were living out God's plan.

-- Martin Luther King, Jr.


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